ironsofcanada
3:41 Mon Sep 26
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I certainly still believe the UK system is better than North American ones when it comes to teenage career paths.
Maybe the decisions are a little early for some but there is a clear non- academic path to good-paying jobs that are very much needed and suit lots of people.
North American systems have abandoned a lot of those.
Also the UK does reward any degree and experience more. You often need a degree very close to the specified field here.
Northern Sold 12:43 Mon Sep 26
It's not about lots of money for some people. I made a decision about 10 years ago that made me a whole lot less money but gave me some amazing (in my mind) experiences. Some of them involved West Ham.
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Nurse Ratched
3:35 Mon Sep 26
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"By the time they went back, the tests showed she was 'streets ahead' (in her teacher's own words)"
I'm not remotely surprised.
However, it's not just about the intensity and quality of teaching, or my notion that I could have done it better/made their education more well-rounded (though I'm arrogant enough to belive that would have been the case) I feel instinctively that it ought to have been wholly MY job to educate my children. We could have had fun along the way, lots of educational trips, nature trails, etc. I would have cherished that time with them. Instead, some random adults got to spend all that time with them. Although it's 'the done thing' to pack off your children to the care of strangers for their education, I can't help feeling I let them down. We did lovely learning activities in our spare time, of course.
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COOL HAND LUKE
3:18 Mon Sep 26
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Nurse Ratched 12:56 Mon Sep 26
I was reading somewhere the other day that over 50% of 'office type job' applicants are now only considering roles where they can work all (or a sizeable chunk of the time) from home. What the lockdowns have done is made folk realise that the need to 'constantly be in the office' has less to do with being able to get the job done, and much more to do all those middle / senior managers who are finding it hard to justify their existence without being able to monitor trivia like loo breaks etc. The number of pointless 'office meetings' has rocketed, apparently...
Additionally, you save all the travelling time, wear and tear on your car / sanity, and you remove the 'risk element' of being out there in rush hour twice a day. Win/win/win.
I worked alongside my 8 year old every 'school day' during the lockdown. We did everything that was put in front of us, and had time to explore many things more thoroughly, especially her Maths and English. By the time they went back, the tests showed she was 'streets ahead' (in her teacher's own words)... It did make me wonder about SFH, but there's no underestimating the time commitment if you want the results from it, and of course they miss all their buddies etc.
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BRANDED
1:00 Mon Sep 26
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The one thing I have never fully understood is why anyone wishes to work for someone else unless they are on some kind of share of the value of the business. Assuming you are any good at your job.
Everybody is educated. It just depends on what you can do with your education and if it gives you satisfaction.
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Nurse Ratched
12:56 Mon Sep 26
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If I could do everything over again, knowing what I know now, I would seek out a job I could do from home which paid well enough (my current salary would be fine, or even less). Then I would have home-schooled my children.
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12:47 Mon Sep 26
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Looking back the answer is yes, more or less.
In terms of education and employment things were much more available. it was well possible to leave school and get a job which provided education and training, to degree level, virtually without cost to the individual who simply had to provide the time and demonstrate commitment.
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Northern Sold
12:43 Mon Sep 26
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Everyone I know that has made REAL Money has not been a University graduate...
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Manuel
12:42 Mon Sep 26
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Yep, I would find a product that most people need, tangible or intangible, study and learn the arse of it, become an expert. i've come to realise that a lot what people need is as boring as hell, but still needed. Example, bloke I use to work gave up his mundane office job and started manufacturing coat hangers and made become very successful.
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Mike Oxsaw
12:30 Mon Sep 26
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Didn't really have much choice - my family couldn't really afford to have me stay at school beyond 16 then go to university so apprenticed as a telephone engineer.
Turned out to be a very fortuitous move as within weeks of me becoming a "proper" technician, the whole of London wanted to phone the New York Stock Exchange to trade pork bellies & Florida orange juice; 15 years unlimited overtime that basically set me up for life - until my 2nd wife spent it all and then some within 18 months 5 years later...
...but no, looking back, wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
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SecondOpinion
11:41 Mon Sep 26
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I manged to get two GCSE's.
English Grade three
Art Grade five
I suffered dreadfully from low self esttem and found low paid, low skill jobs for years. Managed to climb some sort of ladder gradually until i became a Lecturer in TV & Film production in a college. The students had more qualifications than me! Loved the job, hated the politics.
Am now qualified as a pensioner and loving it (Nothing to prove)
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3:55 Mon Sep 26
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Am well happie with my job as English/Mathes Teecher left uni 20 years ago in 2000 and not looked back is great being a teecher is a top job and recomend it to any1
I spend my spare time fishing that’s good en all init
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ironsofcanada
2:03 Mon Sep 26
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BRANDED 1:34 Mon Sep 26
It does help you make up stuff. I will grant you that.
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nychammer
1:56 Mon Sep 26
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I would have stuck to my initial gund years back and become a doctor. Something that would get me out of bed gladly 7 days a week.
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BRANDED
1:34 Mon Sep 26
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Uni should only be about good critical thinking. Something that allows you to make good choices. It helped me to achieve many things I never even imagined possible at 18. That is what good education does, it takes you beyond.
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Charoo
12:01 Mon Sep 26
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Yep, would have listened to my Dad. Turns out he did actually know best.
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joe royal
11:27 Sun Sep 25
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I always wanted to design rollercoasters but was told not to be so stupid and become a mechanic instead.
I like the touring work I do now but listening to some of the old hands talking about driving to packistan and Saudi I sometimes wish I'd started this at 21 and not 42
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Steady
11:17 Sun Sep 25
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I would have learnt a trade like becoming an electrician or plumber
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ironsofcanada
10:14 Sun Sep 25
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Yes, overall
I ended up hating what I went uni for originally but also could have tried harder the first time and opened up more opportunies.
But probably would not have reconnected with my wife and would not have been able to live in England for 9 years either. Got to fulfill some dreams there.
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Tomshardware
9:34 Sun Sep 25
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Yes would have gone straight into a trade as an apprentice carpenter. Instead I messed about for about 5 years with art college and 2 years at uni before quitting, got some life experience from it though. I've ended up in semi skilled manual work and enjoy it, no shortage of work out there if you can do things and work hard.
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zico
9:23 Sun Sep 25
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I would have loved the options they have now compared to the basic options we had when I was at school. I'd probably do something in media studies these days or sport. Did a BTEC Diploma in Sports Science at college in 92 but something similar at school would have been great.
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RM10
9:23 Sun Sep 25
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No regrets, only in investment!
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